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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:27:47 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[DR 1.03, "Accession" Released, All DR Episodes Now Available via HFP]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16352</link>
		<description><![CDATA[We are proud to announce that the latest episode of <i>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations</i>, "Accession" has now been released and is available via <a href="http://hiddenfrontier.com/episodes/STDR103.php" target="_blank">download on the Hidden Frontier Productions website</a>.  It is also available via RSS feed and iTunes/Zune podcast download.<br /><br />This release marks the official launch of Diplomatic Relations on the HFP website.  All previous episodes are now available there for download.  Subscribers to the HFP RSS feed or iTunes/Zune podcast downloads should have those episodes available to them.<br /><br />We hope you enjoy!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:34:21 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[EPISODE PREMIERE - 07 May 2012 - DR 1.03, "Accession"]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16349</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<b><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->EPISODE PREMIERE<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b><br /><br /><!--sizeo:7--><span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><i>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations</i><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><br /><br />Join us on Monday, 07 May 2012, for the premiere of the third episode of <i>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations</i>, "Accession". The episode will be available for download via the Hidden Frontier website and via RSS/iTunes and Zune podcast download.<br /><br />The release of this episode marks the move of the<i> Diplomatic Relations </i>fanchise from Front Line Productions to its new home at Hidden Frontier Productions.<br /><br />Accession: <i>The procedure by which a nation becomes a party to an agreement already in force between other nations.</i><br /><br />Ambassador Kingsley is asked to act as a mediator for the High Curia in its dealings with representatives from several of the older and more traditional families of Tahn'Los, which are still practicing a form of slavery by keeping men as indentured servants. The situation worsens when the <i>Shre’ti-lin’Va</i> announce they have planted bombs at the homes of the families, and will destroy each and every one unless they release all their 'servants'...<br /><br /><u><b>CREDITS</b></u> <br /><br />A Hidden Frontier Production<br /><br /><u><b>Cast</b></u><br /><br />Starring <b>Barbara Puder</b> as Ambassador Jessica Kingsley<br /><br /><b>Jennifer Cole</b> as Yiela Norien<br /><b>Michael Hudson</b> as Avren Osen and Royal Guard<br /><b>Mike Skur</b> as Second Representative Kree'Ho Te'Maat<br /><b>Elaine Barrett </b>as Speaker Vi’Naar<br /><b>Jason Munoz</b> as Riil’na<br /><b>Michael Liebmann</b> as Terrorist Superior<br /><b>David Nagel</b> as Terrorist Commander<br /><b>Andrew Foster</b> as Narrator<br />and introducing <b>Tanja Milosevic</b> as Lyta Brennan<br /><br /><u><b>Production Crew</b></u><br /><br />Written by <b>Alex Matthews</b><br />Directed by <b>Camren T. Burton</b><br /><br />Theme by <b>Bodo Hartwig</b><br /><i>Star Trek</i> Incidental Music by <b>Cliff Eidelman, Ron Jones, Dennis McCarthy and Leonard Rosenman</b><br /><br />Editor and Audio Engineer:  <b>David W. Hill</b><br />Technical Consultant: <b>Jonathan Connor</b><br />Executive Producers: <b>Alex Matthews, Camren T. Burton, Rob Caves and David W. Hill</b><br /><br />Special Thanks:<br /><br /><b>John Whiting</b> for the Poser CG character images<br /><br /><img src="http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/DHillMSP/HF%20stuff/DR103base-01-2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 15:31:06 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title>3D Sampler Released!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br /><br />It has been a while, but I've completed a reel displaying some of Hidden Frontier, Odyssey, Helena, and Frontier Guard scenes in Stereo 3D!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmpM1dEkDow&feature=g-all&context=G2fcda3dFAAAAAAAAAAA" target="_blank">Check it out on YouTube.</a><br /><br />I hope to raise enough funds and interest to continue Frontier Guard and do a Star Trek piece in 3D.  There are quite large costs involved so it won't be right away, but just like how Hidden Frontier started, breaking it down into chunks to get things going.<br /><br />To help get funding going, I am going to be listing a couple of unsold DVD sets on Ebay.  Will keep you posted for those who have always wanted their HF on DVD.  These will be very limited runs and when I'm out of blank media, that's all folks!<br /><br />Hope you enjoy!<br /><br />Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:30:11 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[HMD 1.06, "Vector of Infection" Released]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16263</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The latest episode of our audio drama, <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i> - "Vector of Infection" is now available via the HFP website for download and via iTunes and Zune as a podcast.<br /><br />Enjoy!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:08:16 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[EPISODE PREMIERE - 05 December 2011 - HMD 1.06, "Vector of Infection"]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16259</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<i><b><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->EPISODE PREMIERE<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></i><br /><br /><b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->HENGLAAR, M.D.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b><br /><br />Join us on Monday, 05 December 2011, for the premiere of the sixth episode of <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i>, "Vector of Infection".  The episode will be available for download via the <a href="http://www.hiddenfrontier.com" target="_blank">Hidden Frontier website</a> and via iTunes and Zune podcast download.<br /><br />After an autopsy gone awry, Henglaar and his team have only thirty minutes to solve the mystery of a doomed Federation freighter or the crew of the <i>Cole</i> will face the same fate. <br /><br />The story was developed by Mark Painter. The audio-play was written by Mark Painter with David W. Hill and stars John Whiting, who stars as everybody’s favorite Tellarite.<br /><br /><u><b>Main Cast</b></u><br />Commander Henglaar, M.D.,  <i>played by John Whiting</i><br />Cadet Recruit Silan, <i>played by Heather Ashleigh</i><br />Lt. Vonus, M.D., <i>played by Jeannie Lin</i><br />Lt. Lucas Noah, M.D., <i>played by Timothy Fritts</i><br />Lt. Profto, M.D., <i>played by Mark Samarias</i><br /><br /><b><u>Recurring Cast</u></b><br />Commander Stu Karsten, <i>played by Rick Pike</i><br />Lt. Ken Kato, <i>played by Scott Fack</i><br /><br /><b><u>Guest Cast</u></b><br />DaiMon Narr, <i>played by Mark Mainardi</i><br /><i>Electra</i> Captain, <i>played by Michael Liebmann</i><br /><i>Electra</i> Helm Officer, <i>played by James Jones</i><br /><i>Electra</i> Second Officer, <i>played by Ariel Vitali</i><br /><i>Cole</i> Computer Voice, <i>played by Andrew Foster</i><br /><i>Narr's Fortune</i> Communications Officer, <i>played by Read MacGuirtose</i><br />Lab Technician, <i>played by Camren T. Burton</i><br /><i>Narr's Fortune</i> Computer Voice, <i>played by Mark Painter</i><br /><br /><b><u>Production Crew</u></b><br />Director:  <i>Dave Mason</i><br />Theme and Score:  <i>Mary Kouyoumdjian</i><br />Additional Music:  <i>Hal David</i> and <i>Burt Bacharach</i><br />Editor and Audio Engineer:  <i>David W. Hill</i><br />Medical Advisors:  <i>Ferrell Pierson, M.D.</i> and <i>Seán Paul Teeling</i><br />Technical Consultant:  <i>Jonathan Connor</i><br />Associate Producer:  <i>Kestra Oliver</i><br />Producer:  <i>Mark Painter</i><br />Executive Producers:  <i>Rob Caves</i> and <i>David W. Hill</i><br /><br /><div align='center'><img src="http://en.hiddenfrontier.com/images/e/eb/HMD_106.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:23:30 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Star Trek 3D moving forward</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 3D camera we will be using to film the Star Trek 3D short as well as Frontier Guard is about to be released by Panasonic.  For those looking to include Hidden Frontier in your holiday shopping/philanthropy, here's a first look at one of the items of new hardware we need to purchase.  Donations would be GREATLY appreciated to aid in these upgrades!  All donation amounts will be thanked in the episode credits.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/820251-REG/Panasonic_HDC_Z10000_HDC_Z10000_Twin_Lens_2D_3D_Camcorder.html" target="_blank">PANASONIC 3D CAMERA</a><br /><br />We now have a working title for this short that will serve as a series sizzle reel to pitch to Paramount Pictures to bring Star Trek into the growing world of 3DTV.  (And yes it will be available in 2D as well!)<br /><br />More to come soon!<br /><br />Rob]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:45:57 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Star Trek: Equinox Second Teaser Video Released</title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16236</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Not sure if this has been posted on the forums here yet.<br />*scrolls through the pages*<br />So here is the preview teaser trailer for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpcCmaH4bn4" target="_blank">Star Trek: Equinox</a><br /><br /><i>Star Trek: Equinox Teaser/Preview Version Two<br /><br />Created by Casey J Sullivan<br />Triple-Fiction Productions<br />www.triple-fictionproductions.net<br /><br />For<br /><br />Camren T. Burton & Charlie Rea<br />And<br />Star Trek: Equinox Audio Series<br />Produced by Hidden Frontier Productions<br />www.hiddenfrontier.com<br /><br />Featuring the voice of <br />John Savage as Captain Rudy Ransom<br /><br />Music Composed by Wendell<br />from the Dark Frontier 09-10 Soundtrack<br /><br />Special thanks to the team at Fan Trek Productions<br />Robin Hiert & Martin van Buuren<br />www.darkarmada.nl<br /><br />Nova-Class Model by Gwen Demulder</i>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:46:37 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations Joins HFP Lineup</title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16228</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Long absent from the audio production scene, <i>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations</i> has now come under the aegis of Hidden Frontier Productions!<br /><br />Most of the original cast has agreed to return and resume production where the series left off.<br /><br />The series' new Executive Producers are Alex Matthews, Camren T. Burton, David W. Hill and Rob Caves.  Direction will be handled by Camren T. Burton and David W. Hill will serve as Editor and Audio Engineer.<br /><br />Please join us in welcoming <i>Diplomatic Relations</i> into the Hidden Frontier Productions family!<br /><br /><i>Star Trek: Diplomatic Relations</i> follows Federation Ambassador Jessica Kingsley (Barbara Puder) and her staff as they help a new Federation member world, Tahn'Los, acclimate to the Federation as well as learning from the mistakes of their past to establish a better civilization for their own people.<br /><br />The first two episodes of the series have already been released and are available for download <a href="http://www.startrekdiplomaticrelations.com" target="_blank">here</a>.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:08:08 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Star Trek: Equinox - Pre-production begins!</title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16204</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hidden Frontier Productions is pleased to announce the commencement of a new audio series: <i>Star Trek: Equinox</i>!<br /><br /><br />The unknown backstory of the ill-fated U.S.S. <i>Equinox</i> is finally being told in this new series. Unknown twists, turns, and surprises everywhere! <br /><br />The series, created by admiralrea (Charlie A. Rea) and Camren T. Burton, features several <i>Hidden Frontier</i> guest stars in its pilot episode, including Wayne Webb, Jason Munoz, Janice Willcocks, John Nelson, and <i>Intrepid</i> cast member Nick Cook!<br /><br />The first script is already completed, and casting calls will be issued shortly for the following roles:<br /><br />Captain Rudolph 'Rudy' Ransom<br />	<br />Commander Charlie Rea<br /><br />Chief Engineer Ruko Sullivan <br /><br />Security Chief Mike McCullough<br /><br />Science Officer Tom Fitzgerald<br /><br />Dr. John Pass<br /><br />Lt. Maxwell Burke<br /><br />Counselor Bridget Olsen<br /><br />Ensign Marla Gilmore<br /><br />Crewman Noah Lessing<br /><br />and guest characters - <br /><br />Cadet Corey Aster (That's right - J.T. Tepnapa has decided that it's time for someone else to take a turn at playing this dynamic character)<br /><br />Cadet Jeremy Aster<br /><br />Glinn Norvek (Cardassian, male or female)<br /><br />Enabran Tain<br /><br /><i>Equinox</i> nurse (not yet named, only one line in pilot)<br /><br />Audition scripts will be posted within the next four days. Everyone is welcome to audition, and we look forward to hearing from you!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:10:18 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Star Trek: Odyssey, "Tossed Upon The Shore" Released via YouTube]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16168</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The release is viewable <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-WQs-fxqg8" target="_blank">here</a>.<br /><br />A downloadable version of this episode is planned but is not currently available.  Please check back in Production News for further developments on this front.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:32:46 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title>Jonathan Connor (Capell) Departing Forum Moderation Team</title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16109</link>
		<description><![CDATA[It is with gratitude for his years of service here in the forums along with HFP's various productions as an actor, production team member and technical consultant that I announce the acceptance of Jonathan Connor's resignation as a forum moderator.  Amongst other matters, we discussed the current forum situation and came to the mutual conclusion that two moderators for Off-Topic and Current Events were not necessary at the present time.  Hikago will be continuing as the sole moderator for those areas.<br /><br />No need to worry - Jonathan's not leaving entirely - he will be continuing on with HFP Audio as <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i>'s technical advisor.  <img src="http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/style_emoticons/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";D" border="0" alt="icon_mrgreen.gif" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:36:20 -0400</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[HMD 1.05, "Profit Without Honor" Released]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16031</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The latest episode of our audio drama, <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i> - "Profit Without Honor" is now available via the HFP website for download and via iTunes and Zune as a podcast.<br /><br />Enjoy!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:31:56 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Grissom Live Action CGI titles launched</title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16020</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<!--sizeo:3--><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Please join us on March 5th online, as Ireland's first and foremost Star Trek audio fan show goes visual!<br /><br />Executive Producer Rob Caves, alongside the talented Sam (Star Trek: New Homelands) Wich, with assistance from Brad Hathaway (Star Trek:Hathaway) present stunning new visual CGI opening titles for Grissom, which will feature the Oberth Starship in all her glory. All set to Maestro Bodo Hartwig's fabulous main theme.<br /><br />These titles will be posted on Youtube and Vimeo. Join us for this special 2 minute segment of Grissom, and finally see the U.S.S. Grissom fly!<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.startrekgrissom.com/resources/GRS103_web.jpg.opt753x301o0,0s753x301.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:43:56 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[EPISODE PREMIERE - February 19, 2011 - HMD 1.05, "Profit Without Honor"]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16016</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<i><b><!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->BROADCAST PREMIERE<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b></i><br /><br /><b><!--sizeo:6--><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->HENGLAAR, M.D.<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></b><br /><br /><b>Hidden Frontier Productions is partnering with <a href="http://www.trekradio.net/" target="_blank">TrekRadio</a>, the internet radio channel dedicated to all things Trek, to bring you the first ever web broadcast premiere of <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i>.</b><br />Join us on Saturday, February 19, 2001 for a marathon of the first four episodes, interviews with members of the show's cast and crew (to be announced) and the premiere of <i>Henglaar, M.D.</i>'s fifth episode, "Profit Without Honor".<br /><br />The schedule for this event is as follows (all times are Pacific Standard Time and are approximate):<br /><br /><b><i>Henglaar, M.D.</i> Marathon</b><br />0830 - HMD 1.01, "Recalled To Life"<br />0910 - HMD 1.02, "Best Served Cold"<br />0945 - HMD 1.03, "Risk Factors"<br />1015 - HMD 1.04, "Good With Words"<br /><br /><b><i>Henglaar, M.D.</i> Premiere</b><br />1055 - Live Interview(s) Begin<br />1200 - HMD 1.05, "Profit Without Honor" Premiere<br />1240 - Live Interview(s) Continue<br /><br />The premiere event will conclude at 1330.  The episode will rerun at 2100 in the evening.<br /><br />TrekRadio has an available IRC chat room that will be used during the premiere.  They are on the coldfront network (point your IRC chat program to irc.coldfront.net) - the channel is #trekradio.<br /><br />-----<br />Hundreds of lives hang in the balance when Dana Russell presents Henglaar and his team with a new patient that could damage relations between the Romulans and the Federation.  Dr. Profto must deal with the consequences of his family's actions while Dr. Noah is forced to confront a ghost from his past.<br /><br />The story was written by Mark Painter and stars John Whiting as everyone's favorite Tellarite.<br /><br /><u><b>Main Cast</b></u><br />Commander Henglaar, M.D.,  <i>played by John Whiting</i><br />Cadet Recruit Silan, <i>played by Heather Ashleigh</i><br />Lt. Vonus, M.D., <i>played by Jeannie Lin</i><br />Lt. Lucas Noah, M.D., <i>played by Timothy Fritts</i><br />Lt. Profto, M.D., <i>played by Mark Samarias</i><br /><br /><b><u>Recurring Cast</u></b><br />Commander Stu Karsten, <i>played by Rick Pike</i><br />Lt. Ken Kato, <i>played by Scott Fack</i><br />Lt. Casey Daniels, M.D., <i>played by Anastasia Roark</i><br /><br /><b><u>Guest Cast</u></b><br />Lt. Lal Singh, <i>played by Rowena Sumner</i><br />Fleet Captain David Mackay, <i>played by Scott Butler</i><br />Gex, <i>played by Casey Jones</i><br />Lt. Commander Andrus Mio, <i>played by Casey Jones</i><br />Liquidator Brant, <i>played by Baron Dixon</i><br />Tobel, <i>played by Casey Burke</i><br />Server, <i>played by Erin Langhofer</i><br />Computer Voice, <i>played by Andrew Foster</i><br />with<br />Commander Vrelek, <i>played by Michael McConnohie</i><br />and<br />Captain Dana Russell, <i>played by Melodee M. Spevack</i><br /><br /><b><u>Production Crew</u></b><br />Director:  <i>David W. Hill</i><br />Assistant Director:  <i>Simon Fraser</i><br />Theme and Score:  <i>Mary Kouyoumdjian</i><br />Additional Music:  <i>James Horner, Johnny Mercer, Harold Allen</i> and <i>Victor Schertzinger</i><br />Editor and Audio Engineer:  <i>David W. Hill</i><br />Medical Advisor:  <i>Ferrell Pierson, M.D.</i> and <i>Seán Paul Teeling</i><br />Technical Consultant:  <i>Jonathan Connor</i><br />Associate Producer:  <i>Kestra Oliver</i><br />Producer:  <i>Mark Painter</i><br />Executive Producers:  <i>Rob Caves</i> and <i>David W. Hill</i><br /><br /><div align='center'><img src="http://en.hiddenfrontier.com/images/1/13/HMD_105.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /></div>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:08:00 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[ANG 2.01, "Duty's Betrayal" Released]]></title>
		<link>http://forums.hiddenfrontier.com/index.php?showtopic=16001</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The USS Angeles has opted to wide release the first episode of the audio <i>Voyages of the USS Angeles</i>, "Duty's Betrayal", via their website.  The episode can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.ussangeles.org" target="_blank">the front page of their website.</a>  <a href="http://ussangeles.org/media/video/ang201.mp3" target="_blank">This is the direct link to the episode.</a><br /><br />Wide release from HFP will occur later this week, with downloads to be available from the website, along with iTunes/Zune podcast download.  More details on that release as they become available.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 22:58:22 -0500</pubDate>
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